![]() As umbreon said we're not going to ban spin dashing, people can easily submit fake times - look at the leadeing time and give them a tenth place time - noone will know. I agree with umbreon, there's no way to monitor whether you cheat or not, so cheating with modded controllers on the blast effect isnt really any different. so you really don't even need it to compete in most classic charts anyway The issue here is broken and modded controllers, not the glitch itself.Įdit: not to mention the glitch is totally useless on sky sanctuary, speed highway, and rooftop run, and doesn't significantly break the level in crisis city, seaside hill, or planet wisp. And to have competition you can't arbitrarily ban things because you don't like them. I just went and did M-speed on Shadow on the PC version on my first try.Īs for the biggest question: we want competition. it doesn't even apply to the whole game it's situational, and when it does work - in terms of difficulty, not effectiveness - it's just as hard on console as it is on PC. we already have a clear stance on version differences that nobody is debatingī. The only way you could possibly consider that it does that is through the version difference thing, and:Ī. It really doesn't divide the charts at all. Uhh, we have a lot more than 4 players who use the glitch. As someone who may not even finish the few Extra/Ring charts I have left to go, I am just speaking as someone who was apart of the heat of records flying which-way-but-anywhere when these glitches were getting absolutely understood. That's my say, you guys can work out the rest. I think the biggest question here is do we want records or competition? Would it make the competition more accessible instead of Classic records being 1 of the 4 (estimate) out of 111 people on the site who actually use this trick? HELL YES. Would a decision like this going negative badly affect the Generations charts? HELL YES. As I am a PC player, I don't have the convenience of doing it with little to no effort, so hell, if I WOULD do it it probably would be through means like this, with the rubber bands and what not. Part of it is in hopes that maybe people will realise how insanely divided this glitch makes Generations. People who know me from the irc should be quite (QUITE) aware that I am strictly against any and all forms of the speed glitch (Both Classic/Modern). And about the rubber band thing: as long as you don't use some kind of cheat feature such as autofire, IMO you're free to manage your controller in any way you feel its better it's no different than finding a way to shake the Wiimote faster.Īnd about the total ban: have you considered if the speed glitch is worth joining the list of "big glitches that fuck up the entire game" like those in SA2 and Heroes? Probably not in Generations, but in Unleashed is a different thing (BJG!). The only logical solutions I see are banning the glitch altogether or leaving things how they are now.īanning certain controller issues sounds incredibly awkward: I can tell you that controller advantages and disadvantages exist in pretty much every game, such as the Wiimote's motion unresponsiveness in SUWii (and lack of a homing attack button), the constant quick stepping glitch experienced by some Sonic Generations PC players, and people who use a keyboard (its layout is different than that of a controller). These are just my personal opinions on the matter. ![]() As you can see I have quite strong and strict opinions on the issue, but I think the competition should be made as fair to all the competitors as possible, and that means eradicating these sorts of allowances that give players the upper hand on each other. It's not a part of the game controller, and, in my opinion, should thereby be made illegal. Using one's fingernail is a debatable issue, but (here goes.) I think this should also be banned as (this sounds stupid but) players with longer fingernails have an advantage over players without. I know this sounds daft, but a player with a spoon, rubber band or pencil can have the upper hand on a player who doesn't. Bash me if you will, but I also believe that spoon, pencil and rubber band tricks should also be banned from the competition, as the player is using an external item to again give them a gameplay advantage, items that are not part of the game controller. I definitely vote -no- to using a worn controller that gives the player an advantage, because as bertin has pointed out it's pretty much the same as using a modded game controller.
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